Heck no! There are other places to do that.
Payloads such as the muon detector benefit from extended time in the air. Other potential payloads may benefit from a more gentle descent, or placement in a specific location. Additionally, DAVE-specific payloads may be interesting, such as aerial mapping, rocket-spotting, etc.
Getting a conventional UAS to this altitude can actually be quite difficult at this scale. While it is certainly doable, there may be applications for this sort of vehicle in a situation where rapid response and having a presence at these altitudes is important. The autonomous functionality is critical in these scenarios. For example, while fighting a fire, being able to quickly get a picture from the sky may be useful for firefighters on the ground.
Write it down on the Trello card and message in #payload-dave! Even if we are actively focusing on IREC payloads, we can always be writing down good and interesting ideas.
DAVE: Deployable Aerial Vehicle Experiment or DAVE Aerial Vehicle Experiment. Project initiated Spring 2020. The project was cancelled in August 2023.
(With extremely scientific qualitative examples.)
DAVE deploys just after apogee, or the apex of the rocket's flight. In doing so, it uses its ejection mechanism to leave the payload bay in the launch vehicle's interior and pursue its own free-fall path to the ground. Doing so allows DAVE and its cargo to undertake a longer, more controlled flight separate from the parachute and the rocket fuselage.
Due to DAVE's full flight structure needing to be contained within a 6" diameter tube, the glider must be collapsable. In particular, both its primary wings (of Rogollo type) and its elevators must be collapsable in some fashion.
Additionally, the manipulation of our weight, lift, and drag force vectors are essential to DAVE having a controllable flight. DAVE currently has no mode for producing thrust, but a thrust-producing cargo may be pursued in the future. Calculations to determine the correct geometries (including wing sizing and placement) are located on the DAVE Trello board under Aerostructures.
As we would like to be able to control DAVE's flight from the ground, we will need on-board avionics. These avionics will control two types of control surfaces on DAVE: elevators and rudders. The elevators give DAVE control in the roll and pitch directions, while the rudders give the glider yaw control. Both of these will be located at the rear end of the vehicle - the Rogollo wings will be fixed and uncontrolled.
The grand purpose of DAVE is to carry onboard experiments that benefit from its unique deployment and flight pattern. Although the current designs for cargo carrying are not set, a goal is to have a modular interface, so any cargo concept that matches can go aboard.
The DAVE blog is intended to keep track of all major developments during our weekly meetings. Major progress updates and role assignments will be summarized in the main DAVE page.
Initial tasks assigned as follows:
Tasks
People
DAVE Ejection (2)
Work with Recovery and Airframe to determine ejection mechanism/system for glider
Discuss stretching payload section on BFO
Special manufacturing feasibility: cutting into fiberglass??
Ground testing
Determine upper limit of specs (weight)
Brandon
Jay
Rajiv
Joseph
DAVE Aerostructures (3)
Unpacking system
Fabric engineering
Modular cargo integration (at least 1 up to however many we can feasibly fit)
Fasten them onto mounting plates
80/20 (T-slots)
Flight control surfaces
Determine upper limit of specs (weight)
Michael
Rebecca
Jared
DAVE Avionics (2)
Autonomy (Ardupilot, etc.)
Manual control
Radio communication (COTS or custom)
Actuation of servos and any pyrotechnic devices
Jason
Jones: Testing Unidentified Object Drone (1–2)
Alternatives if we are too broke: work with UAV club or get a STAC weather balloon
What are we carrying: just the glider (3–4 lbf), glider and cargo (7–8 lbf), or the whole payload section (14–15 lbf)
Radio and release
Diplomat Jared
Bryant
DAVE Legal (0 unique)
Ensure FAA compliance and waivers
Ensure NAR/Tripoli requirements are met
Communicate with relevant launch sites
Communicate with UCPD for testing
Priyan
Rebecca
Created Trello board (must log in, message in #payload-dave for access):